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**ianhd** · March 31, 2021, 5:59am

Love it!
Been using it on all my boxes for a bit.
Looking forward to the official release!

**m2342** · March 31, 2021, 1:39pm

Does ist contain built-in support for language servers?

**bschaaf** · March 31, 2021, 2:11pm

It does not, but there’s been a lot of effort to improve the plugin API specifically for the community LSP plugin which has been continuously developed alongside ST4.

**wbond** · March 31, 2021, 6:29pm

3 posts were split to a new topic: ST4 Printing Support

**canoeberry** · March 31, 2021, 6:45pm

I switched to ST4 for the improved LSP support and I am thrilled with that.

However my main plugin “Emacs Pro Essentials” has some errors that I do not understand.

Is there any improved documentation for this version? And … when you go into alpha or beta, will there be a place to ask plugin questions for people trying to move plugins over to ST4?

**wbond** · March 31, 2021, 6:47pm

We do have ST4 docs available on the Discord server.

Bugs reports of things breaking from ST3 to ST4 would be very helpful. We’ve tried pretty hard to make sure things stay working.

**canoeberry** · March 31, 2021, 6:48pm

Can you help me … figure out how to … OK - what is the Discord server!?

**srbs** · March 31, 2021, 6:56pm

@canoeberry, see this post: Resources and Bug Tracking

**canoeberry** · March 31, 2021, 6:56pm

I decided to use google … seems to have worked …

**profRidha** · April 1, 2021, 3:10pm

sublime text 4 also does not support native interactive builds (python)

**UltraInstinct05** · April 1, 2021, 3:19pm

You can always use Terminus to make any build system interactive.

**profRidha** · April 1, 2021, 3:22pm

thx , but the problem is that in a classroom without an internet connection I can’t find a method to install terminus (offline)

**wbond** · April 1, 2021, 3:24pm

I’d probably recommend using the terminal emulator that comes with the OS then. PowerShell is decent on Windows, Terminal on Mac and your desktop environment’s terminal on Linux.

**jacobstn** · April 1, 2021, 3:35pm

I feel like this teaser does a poor job of generating anticipation. Presumably people at Sublime HQ have been working on more substantial things than themed title bars or small annotations beside definitions in the 1.5 years since the last major release. Well, what are they? Or is this mostly an API-focused update?

There are also some counterintuitive things going on with the teaser itself. I can’t imagine a single use case where I initiate autocomplete, then use the mouse to click on an unwieldy link to go to definition, when the alternative of just completing the thing and pressing F12 to go to the definition is just tremendously faster.

Sublime already does the presumably hard work of indexing definition locations. Why not go one more step further and index the whole signature, and include that in the auto-completion panel? You don’t need an excessive amount of additional data to get the extent of the signature, and that would be an actual improvement.

**UltraInstinct05** · April 1, 2021, 3:50pm

You can view the full changelog for each dev release here

gist.github.com

https://gist.github.com/jfcherng/7bf4103ea486d1f67b7970e846b3a619

st4-changelog.md

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About Sublime Text 4
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ST 4 is currently under private alpha for power users to test and report issues to let the dev team make it polished before it gets publicly announced. It has been under alpha for over 1 year already and it's actually kind of stable for daily use now. If you have a ST 3 license, you can join the [offical ST Discord chat server](https://discord.gg/D43Pecu) to download and test it. And the most  important thing, report issues you encoutered so ST 4 can become better. I hope people can interact with the dev team more so I don't directly put download links here but maybe you are smart enough to guess them :)

Dev Channel Changelog

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Of course, the preview just contains a small, important sample of work done during the dev cycle. Including all of the changes would probably make the preview unwieldy.

There have as usual been a ton of changes towards API (adding more to it, improving the existing endpoints), syntax definitions (non deterministic parsing, inheritance, numerous other fixes not to mention the community maintained Packages that has been constantly updated almost every other dev release) and much more.

**wbond** · April 1, 2021, 4:01pm

This is just a little teaser of some of the visual things that are digestible in a short video that is appropriate for the attention span of social media.

We’ve got a pretty huge list of new features, improvements and bug fixes spanning the gamut of what Sublime Text does. Trying to put those into a video would be a really poor way to present the info, and we aren’t looking to share the entire list yet, unless users are interested in engaging in our limited beta on Discord.

Please visit the Discord server and join the beta if you are a licensed user to preview ST4.

There is a key binding - f12 that works also. Not everyone is a keyboard user. Showing via the mouse makes it a little more clear what is going on.

You are welcome to contribute to the syntax definitions to make it possible to extract structured work out of syntax definitions. Or, alternatively there is the LSP package that provides more IDE-like features if that is what you are going for.

The main thing highlighted here is that we are indexing and exposing more info, in such a way that it will “just work” using the built-in and third party syntaxes. We actual present all of this info via the API also.

As we prepare for the public launch, we’ll be working on taking the huge list of changes and trying to distill it into a more easily consumed format.

**jacobstn** · April 1, 2021, 4:12pm

@wbond : Thanks for your response. Your comment was helpful in that I wasn’t actually aware that I could be extracting full function signatures through syntax definitions alone, because as far as I can tell the Sublime API only returns single points when queried for symbol locations, not a begining and end tuple. I will have look into how that works some point.

I look forward to the full announcement.

**wbond** · April 1, 2021, 4:23pm

Sublime Text doesn’t have an API for that currently because the syntax definitions don’t have consistent scoping of this info. The index would be used to look up the symbol location, and then if we had a consistent scoping that we applied across the default syntaxes, then we could provide helpers to extract the signature.

Hence, the first step is to help contribute to making the default syntaxes more consistent in this regard, and then we can work on providing the tooling.

Most of our built-in smarts are created by building on top of the existing syntax definitions. The new info about symbol kind and language is extracted using exactly that existing info. The APIs for symbols have been augmented to provide the info we are grabbing to plugins.

**dakiriki** · April 5, 2021, 1:23pm

Nice to hear a new version is coming out.
Will ST4 have needed APIs to enable FTP plugins with file browser as VSCode does?

**wbond** · April 5, 2021, 1:55pm

No, that did not reach the priority level of other changes we felt were more important for broad user base impact.

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