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ST still alive?

#55

[quote=“strongcode”]
I’m a new ST user and was very surprised by the negativity surrounding this amazing product.[/quote]

The negativity is more on the failure to communicate rather than on the product.

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#56

more live than ever, no words to express how fast and handy this editor is

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#57

I don’t really understand OS update concerns… what OS update has ever broken userspace software like a text editor? The only thing I can think of is when Apple moved from OS 9 to OS X, but even then they made a compatibility layer for the first like 10 years or whatever.

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#58

This isn’t a free product where he gets to make that kind of decision. We paid for this and not a trivial amount. If Jon was developing this on his own time and giving it away it would be one thing, but when you bring money into the matter it’s a whole other issue. When people are paying for your product, there is no difference between one person on his own and many people working for a larger software company from the perspective of customer service and development. Your customers are actively giving you money, which means that they get to say whatever they want, and you have to go on with development. I don’t understand how anyone can possibly justify forgiving him for any of this when if it were an “official” company there would be a complete uproar.

I also don’t understand why people think the ST3 release is coming out this year. There has been no development for months, not even dev builds (the last was December 2013). There is no indication that he intends to do any work whatsoever on this anymore. Which as I said before is not completely unreasonable; people get burned out, believe me I think we can all empathize with that. But it either needs to be handed off to someone else for development (open source or another company) or at least just say “this product is no longer under active development” instead of disappearing.

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#59

Sorry, but he does. There is nothing in the license agreement about continuous development or any kind of support. You buy it as it is and the developer has no obligation to fix any bug. Of course, that might alienate customers and you might not be happy about it but he has no legal obligation. He might even sale or discontinue the project. Just think about the all the companies that are bought and their service is discontinued (e.g. this email client google bought a couple of years ago). Luckily, the trial version is very generous so you can try as long as you want before investing. I got my license maybe a year ago (after a loooong trial) and I am very glad I did! ST is the best!

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#60

From the Sublime office: We are not selling to Github, we are not stopping development of Sublime. As noted by another poster, this is effectively a one man band (I’m here to answer sales questions, process your refunds and get the mail so Jon doesn’t have to). The past few months of silence on the development front have been a combination of boring back end work (taxes, new payment platform) as well as a break for the man driving this whole operation. No, we don’t currently have a loud internet presence, which is can be an understandable cause for concern-something we intend to address once we move into the production version of 3. There is a vision for continued growth and development, there is momentum behind Sublime Text; it is not dead, just slow.

I’m happy to field any specific questions you might have about the Sublime’s future: sales@sublimetext.com.

Cheers
Kari

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Sublime Text wins the Net Awards 2014 — App of the year
Re: Jon what is the future of Sublime Text?
Sublime Text 3 still in beta
What's happening
#61

That’s great to hear. I have saved literally hundreds of hours using the RegEx search and replace for a project I’m working on. Hundreds of changes I would have had to make by hand without the ability to do RegEx in the replacement text.

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#62

Now that we know Sublime is in fact alive, we can all get back to work :wink:.

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#63

[quote=“karisublime”]From the Sublime office: We are not selling to Github, we are not stopping development of Sublime. As noted by another poster, this is effectively a one man band (I’m here to answer sales questions, process your refunds and get the mail so Jon doesn’t have to). The past few months of silence on the development front have been a combination of boring back end work (taxes, new payment platform) as well as a break for the man driving this whole operation. No, we don’t currently have a loud internet presence, which is can be an understandable cause for concern-something we intend to address once we move into the production version of 3. There is a vision for continued growth and development, there is momentum behind Sublime Text; it is not dead, just slow.

I’m happy to field any specific questions you might have about the Sublime’s future: sales@sublimetext.com.

Cheers
Kari[/quote]

Thank you for the update Kari! It’s great to finally hear some official news. Periodic statements about the status of the project will go a long way with keeping the community happy and motivated to contribute. I fear that the lack of communication up to now has unfortunately driven some community members away and definitely demotivated some others…

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#64

Thanks Kari! This makes me happy to know. Once ST3 is in production mode and the vision of communication is realised can we please get the forum moved to a better solution? Or at least setup an email server to send mail?

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#65

I’ve regularly come back here just to check on the status of sublime text, and at first I was distressed over there being a lack of updates. But then over time I tried other editors, and am yet to find a replacement that performs as well as - and has the same flexibility via community extensions - as sublime does. The closest so far has been Brackets, which is still an order of magnitude behind when it comes to performance (OS X, retina). Then there is Atom, which hardly hits 30fps when scrolling through a document - even before code highlighting is finished.

I am still 100% happy with the latest nightly build of sublime text, and don’t see myself leaving for another editor unless it manages to get performance right (I’m honestly never sure a WebKit based editor will ever reach this) and implements multi-cursor etc. as thoroughly as ST3.

Would be nice to see a final release of ST3 so I can more easily recommend it to others; the fact the website is stuck in v2 mode is a bit disappointing.

Hoping for the best into the future. While the core app may not get updates, the community definitely isn’t dead (a huge thanks to all the awesome package authors out there).

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#66

Excellent. Thanks for the update! Personally I don’t care about a loud internet presence, just a little reassurance like that from time to time :smile:

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#67

Yes, finally some info. Thanks a lot Kari !!! :smiley:

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#68

[quote=“strongcode”]

You’re the kind of guy Microsoft loves. …[/quote]

I don’t know what any of this has to do with Microsoft. And I’m pretty sure that everything gregor.hoch said is correct.

Not that I’m any kind of authority on the matter.

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#69

Wo! FichteFoll was dead on right. Good man, FF! :smile:
HAH!
So whaddya think of that, Arjan? (Or whatever alias you’re using this week?)
Oh, but wait… IT STILL DOESN’T PRINT!!! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
:smile:
Ya know… say what they will, (and you know what they say), I do have to admit… it IS more fun around here with your trolling and whining and ridiculous antics.
Hell. I tell ya what, bud. You ever get down to N. Texas, you PM me. I’ll buy you a fuckin’ beer, man. Maybe 2. How bout it? :smiling_imp:

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#70

posting for notifications on my “View your posts” page because this forum software (or the mail server) doesn’t allow subscribing to topics and I don’t want to bookmark everything

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#71

Unless… karisublime is an user made by arjan and he trolls us all! :smiling_imp:

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#72

This can’t be: memberlist.php?mode=leaders - karisublime is an official Administrator

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#73

[quote=“karisublime”]From the Sublime office: We are not selling to Github, we are not stopping development of Sublime. As noted by another poster, this is effectively a one man band (I’m here to answer sales questions, process your refunds and get the mail so Jon doesn’t have to). The past few months of silence on the development front have been a combination of boring back end work (taxes, new payment platform) as well as a break for the man driving this whole operation. No, we don’t currently have a loud internet presence, which is can be an understandable cause for concern-something we intend to address once we move into the production version of 3. There is a vision for continued growth and development, there is momentum behind Sublime Text; it is not dead, just slow.

I’m happy to field any specific questions you might have about the Sublime’s future: sales@sublimetext.com.

Cheers
Kari[/quote]

Your input to this thread is greatly appreciated but “I’m outta here” from the time/date of this post.

Sublime Text was/is a great application but as one of my managers at work once told me it’s all about communication. And that has been seriously lacking here in recent months. If jps wants to contact me then I’ll certainly reply to him with my concerns. I have paid $100s for software over the years but have never been left wondering where my money was going. Software authors have, until now, always kept me informed.

I’m now removing ST from all of my (Linux) PCs. Sorry, but there other text editors which I now prefer to support.

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#74

So you’re removing ST because of the lack of communication allthough you bought it?
That’s a little strange if you ask me, what are you trying to prove with that and whats the editor you prefer over ST?

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