Sublime Forum

To stay or to leave of this community

#1

While I can understand the lack of responses to some questions and threads from the developers of sublime text, I can’t understand a complete lack of responses to the coordinated efforts made by the community members. I can’t fairly judge what’s going on here, since I’m relatively a new member, I don’t know jon, and the only one mail I wrote almost a year ago never had a reply. Maybe they are happy this way, because of some unknow past issue, or just because nothing, and that’s fine to me, since there is no real *obligation *to do any of these things.

What I know, is that I joined the community of a commercial product, which was supposed to be somewhat open, and it is, because most community members, participating, from old yo new ones, try to contribute and be of help; but our inability to get a proper organization makes me think I’m wasting my time here, login to this forum, and keep an eye on overall issues.

I enjoy and like this editor, but I’m currently meditating if, to accept it is this way, or just leave…

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#2

[quote=“tito”]While I can understand the lack of responses to some questions and threads from the developers of sublime text, I can’t understand a complete lack of responses to the coordinated efforts made by the community members. I can’t fairly judge what’s going on here, since I’m relatively a new member, I don’t know jon, and the only one mail I wrote almost a year ago never had a reply. Maybe they are happy this way, because of some unknow past issue, or just because nothing, and that’s fine to me, since there is no real *obligation *to do any of these things.

What I know, is that I joined the community of a commercial product, which was supposed to be somewhat open, and it is, because most community members, participating, from old yo new ones, try to contribute and be of help; but our inability to get a proper organization makes me think I’m wasting my time here, login to this forum, and keep an eye on overall issues.

I enjoy and like this editor, but I’m currently meditating if, to accept it is this way, or just leave…[/quote]

I’m not a st plugin developer but the lack of presence by the st core team leaves me speechless

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#3

While I’m not employed by Sublime HQ, I put your Unofficial bug track thread as sticky for what it’s worth

Jon has always been, shall we say, focused

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#4

Probably it’s better to either link it from all subforums or move it to tech support :wink:

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#5

move it to tech support

He asked for a sticky. He finally got it. Now you making trouble?!

Gah :smile:

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#6

What if we hosted a third-party forum site, where we could actually subscribe to threads (gasp!) and just help each other out and actually moderate things. Would that be a good idea? It’s something I’ve been thinking about a bit.

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#7

I’m liking this idea. What third-party forum did you have in mind?

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#8

I’ve always wanted to try out discourse.org/.

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#9

Cue the cure :wink:

Seriously though, the lack of communication is one of the reasons I occasionally work on my Open Source ST3 compatible editor. It’s not ready to be used for anything real, but I believe it’s not too far from it from a backend perspective in case anyone is interested in putting some more effort into it. I’d gladly add collaborators if someone is actively submitting pull requests. It’s been a couple of weeks since I looked at it last, but IIRC it then supported Textmate colour schemes and syntax definitions, multiple cursors, and a large enough subset of the ST3 python api to successfully run Vintageous full unit testing suite.

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#10

Woah… trying to build now. I’ve never used Go, but I’ve been curious.

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#11

The community here seems to be dying. Whenever a post like since appears, everyone appears out of nowhere as is they’re not to blame for the lack of content. I haven’t done much recently in the ST realm but the few times I have, I asked for help with my plugin to no avail. Maybe the problem is the forum software, but idk…

More importantly, @quarnster, I went to try lime but ran into issues building it. Actually, tbh, I didn’t even get that far. I get an error setting up the dependencies:

Cloning into '/Users/liam/Development/Go/src/github.com/quarster/parser'... fatal: https://github.com/quarster/parser/info/refs?service=git-upload-pack not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?

Any ideas? I’ve never used Go before so it’s probably something really stupid.

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#12

There’s a typo in the readme… you have to change “quarster” to “quarnster”.
Here are the rest of my notes so far:

go get github.com/salviati/go-qt5 #*(edited URL)
run the go-qt5 install instructions
if you use homebrew, use “qmake PREFIX=brew --prefix/lib”

you have to clone the lime repo into your GO_PATH/src directory, because that’s the way Go works I guess?

I don’t have python-config but I have python3.3-config
But python3.3-config tries to set the flag -Wno-unused-result, which my gcc chokes on, so I deleted that.

Now I’m stuck at:

../../github.com/quarnster/completion/util/binaryreader.go:113: undefined: expression.EXPRESSION

…whatever that means.

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#13

Also it is impossible to search for answers about Go. It reminds me of when I was working with CAN bus a bit ago… search engines aren’t built for things like “can error 7” or “go expression”.
Ironic that Google came up with an unsearchable name for their programming language.

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#14

Ha, knew it would be something stupid. Thanks!
Trying to get everything else set up now…

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#15

Let me know if you figure it out! I’m still reading about Go, trying to figure out why expression.EXPRESSION should make sense.

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#16

The go-qt5 pull requests were already accepted (!!) so you can use github.com/salviati/go-qt5.

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#17

[quote=“tito”]While I can understand the lack of responses to some questions and threads from the developers of sublime text, I can’t understand a complete lack of responses to the coordinated efforts made by the community members. I can’t fairly judge what’s going on here, since I’m relatively a new member, I don’t know jon, and the only one mail I wrote almost a year ago never had a reply. Maybe they are happy this way, because of some unknow past issue, or just because nothing, and that’s fine to me, since there is no real *obligation *to do any of these things.

What I know, is that I joined the community of a commercial product, which was supposed to be somewhat open, and it is, because most community members, participating, from old yo new ones, try to contribute and be of help; but our inability to get a proper organization makes me think I’m wasting my time here, login to this forum, and keep an eye on overall issues.

I enjoy and like this editor, but I’m currently meditating if, to accept it is this way, or just leave…[/quote]

The lack of any form of support is extremely frustrating, but what really bugs me is the lack of respect for his clients and turning of simple things like forum notification so we don’t have to waste so much time checking if something has been responded to. Maybe it is because he doesn’t bother to respond anyway so figured who cares about notification, but some other people in the forums actually respond to posts and I would like to see them. The comment about not wanting to spend time setting up a mail server is bs. It takes 60-5 minutes to do it. It is most likely already setup with where ever he is hosting this. Just a complete lack of respect and an FU to his paying customers.

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#18

You’ll need to:

cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/quarnster/completion/build go run build.go
Some unit tests in this step might fail depending on their quality (ie how specific they are to my installation), but they are safe to ignore. I’ve updated the readme with this info.

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#19

I have been watching over the github bug tracker thread hoping for a reply from jps. It’d be really nice to see just a touch more communication from the development side of things, outside of the occasional reply or new build announcement, and also some organisation of bugs and their status beyond the many wild threads in the forum.

I also run a relatively large-scale product by myself and understand it can be both overwhelming and distracting to deal with many incoming bug/feature requests, but it is something that does need to be done. Providing next-to-zero support isn’t a good look for a product, no matter how amazing the product is (and ST is amazing).

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#20

quarnster, great idea :smile: But wouldn’t choosing the exact same technology as Jon (C++ + Python) be a surer way to build a cross-platform editor? Is ST internals explained somewhere?
Also, LightTable (another editor w/ another spirit) uses node-webkit, which might be worth looking, but I’m not sure if you could achieve great performance with it.

As tiko, I’m also frustrated that sublime isn’t becoming a great basis for becoming an IDE, and the community is apathic.

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