Sublime Forum

Should I buy?

#1

I found Sublime Text and like it. But I’ve read a number of negative blog and forum posts lately about the project. I asked sales about 3.0 release but no word.

Are people still using Sublime Text, or should I go for TextMate2, Atom or something similar these days?

70 bucks is steep for a poor youngster, so not sure…

Is there an emacs mode (I know about vim-mode, but I come from emacs)

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#2

I bought a license for SublimeText as I bought a license for E-Editor. Maybe, I’m a magician that can kill an editor when I pay for it?

Sure, I should only buy a software as is. Alas, sometimes I couldn’t resist to support a small business … but I think this wouldn’t happen any more. I will invest in paperware and learn about Vim or Emacs.

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#3

The negativity is solely from the lack of communication, very little is regarding the editor itself.

I spend all day using Sublime Text 3 (Dev build), in fact, the team of 7 others that I work with all use it too.

I really advise not asking others if it’s worth the money. If you’ve used Sublime, then you can evaluate if it’s worth it to you. I bought Sublime back in early 2011 and have used it almost every day since. I’m a far more productive developer using an editor such as Sublime, however that may not be true for others. Like I said, only you know if it’s worth the $70 to you.

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#4

You may not buy until the first ST3 stable goes out :wink:

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#5

Except for inline preview, most plugins work just fine for me. Sublime isn’t an IDE so IMHO it shouldn’t try to do a lot of stuff. I know Atom or TM2 have all those features and aren’t IDEs but they end up losing the simplicity (and in Atom’s case, the performance). I’m pretty satisfied with ST’s core feature set.

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#6

While the original question of “Should I buy” is rather leading, I’d say that for the time being the practical answer is no.

At this point the virtues and limits of Sublime Text have been pretty well hashed over. I agree with jbrooksuk that the negativity stems from jps’s lack of communication. The defenses – which I’ve seen here, and I’ve seen with TextMate back in its day, and also with MacRabbit’s languishing Espresso app – are frequently a mix of “would you rather have the developer working on the code, or in forums answering a bunch of questions” combined with, in so many words, “well, with all of you people being obnoxious and critical, it’s no wonder he doesn’t communicate.” And, you know, there’s some truth to both of those. But the bottom line is that some communication is essential. For all the shade thrown at BBEdit for being old and tired, it gets point releases regularly and developers frequently take the time to answer questions on the mailing list. And, of course, there are open source editors that have pretty active development communities around them.

I bought Sublime Text pretty shortly after it came out for the Mac, and I don’t regret it – but at the same time, it’s hard not to grit my teeth watching the same thing happen to it that happened to TextMate 2 back before it went open source. (Ironically, TM2 is under pretty active development these days.) I’m still rooting for ST3 to turn official, and I still think it’s worth trying it out. But realistically, I think there’s a non-zero chance that Atom is going to end up being a modern answer to Vim and Emacs; there’s all manner of things to kvetch about with Atom as it exists now, especially in terms of performance, but I don’t think that’s going to be the case indefinitely.

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#7

[quote=“kaiser101”]
You miss the point. If you work with a limited set of functionality and it works for you does not mean Sublime is bug free. Also just because Atom has a lot of features does not mean it is not simple. Atom allows you to customise it by building your own plugins, but at the same time it allows you access to the core, which Sublime does not. Sublime’s plugins are limited by the API that are exposed.[/quote]

I never said it was bug free (even though it has been very stable for me for a long time).

I agree the API is very limited in comparison with other editors but sadly I don’t think we will ever get “access to the core API” in any commercial and closed source editor.

Nice straw man.

Why not just use Atom if Sublime isn’t good enough and you have a free (and better) alternative?

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#8

Of course NO! Because

  1. Sublime is dead or nearly dead.
  2. JPS never fixes bugs that he doesn’t want.
  3. Sublime text has no official support: you just buy as it is.
  4. Sublime text is still in beta, do you want to pay $70 for a beta?
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#9

The biggest advantage I see that Sublime has over Atom and the likes is startup speed and overall rendering performance.
There is perhaps also smth to be said about plugins maturity, but I don’t know much about that, and that won’t stand the test of time anyway.

I’d say Sublime provides enough value to warrant getting a license, as a general text editor, even compared to Notepad++, but that depends on you.
I’m still a student and don’t have much money, but as I used it more and more, I came to prefer it to N++ and thought that I should support fellow programmers when I could. 70$ isn’t that much.

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#10

We’re getting into bad territory. I’m stopping this now.

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