Goodbye Sublime Text

[JacobWille]

I am not, friends are not. Oh, they are not.

As evidenced by download stats and threads like this, they are. Also, I’m glad you’re not, clowns should stick with the dead editor.

[damienstanton]

…still keeping a dormant ST3 on my machine, waiting for the final release.

Yeah, it just sucks to have paid for something and be in that situation.

I write Clojure so it’s a bit weird that I never got into Emacs (I always felt faster in Vim). Much respect for it though - it’s a damn-near operating system

[dinkit]

[quote=“JacobWille”]

I am not, friends are not. Oh, they are not.

As evidenced by download stats and threads like this, they are. Also, I’m glad you’re not, clowns should stick with the dead editor.[/quote]

Calm down. tux is a troll and you took the bait. A lot of people say they move, others don’t. Let people pick their tools.

[dinkit]

The main reason people are switching to Atom in droves is that Sublime HQ the past two years has only done the bare minimum to keep interest up. People are figuring this out, so the communication is not only lacking, it comes across as disingenuous. I predict another small burst of releases this fall, then silence for six months. It’s appalling. But I also feel kinda bad for saying all this, because who knows what’s going on, maybe illness or financial troubles. Fact is, people are migrating to Atom and Bracket.io in numbers, and I tend to think some level communication would benefit Sublime (the uncertainty surrounding Sublime made me take another look at Atom, and I’m impressed by the editor and the people around it)

I 100% agree with this sentiment. As for the reason why, I doubt financials would cause it. Using packagecontrol.io/stats, I think 250K paying users is a highly conservative estimate. Multiplied with even the old license cost makes me think he has motivation issues rather than money issues Either way, sad for the users, but hey - we now have atom so who gives a shit.

[damienstanton]

What professional says “I love this editor, but I wish it was more tied to a specific technology and in particular the version a commercial website uses”

I do. Many of us do - we’re not debating merits of OSS here, so if people find that commercial website useful and there’s a free editor that offers this, then it’s a reasonable feature.

Then the whole “hack on my self”, this is just such a pretentious hipsterism.

I disagree. Having the source of an editor is important if your organization distributes in-house customizations. The fact that in Atom you can do so with simple CoffeeScript or JavaScript is very nice. We can also extend existing packages like remote-pairing to make them more specifically tailored for our environment.

The only people I would say have a legitimate claim to “hacking” on an editor would be the EMACS crowd and say what you will about them, I’ve never had one of them try to claim that having an editor that needs dirty hacks everywhere is a good thing.

Whether the modifications to source are “dirty” or not depends on the quality of the edits (and the programmer), not the editor itself. There is nothing intrinsically dirty about the Atom source.

[tux]

As evidenced by download stats and threads like this, they are.

Neither this thread nor the number of automated bot downloads evidences any sane human using that piece of crap.

clowns should stick with the dead editor.

That escalated quickly. So everyone who chooses a different editor than Atom is a “clown” for you? I smell serious bias here.
(And bullshit.)

I write Clojure so it’s a bit weird that I never got into Emacs (I always felt faster in Vim). Much respect for it though - it’s a damn-near operating system

Vim has SLIMV, at least; so you can pretend it’s Emacs.

Calm down. tux is a troll and you took the bait. (…) Let people pick their tools.

So choosing Atom is “picking their tools”, not choosing Atom is “trolling”? Are you a bit slow?

[dinkit]

So choosing Atom is “picking their tools”, not choosing Atom is “trolling”? Are you a bit slow?

Another logical fallacy. You’re on a roll tux!

[tux]

Please answer my question. Why do you want me to let people pick their tools while calling me a troll for not choosing Atom?

[dinkit]

Please answer my question. Why do you want me to let people pick their tools while calling me a troll for not choosing Atom?

I want you to understand logical thinking. For your own sake. You’re not a troll for not choosing Atom. You’re just a troll. You took a perfectly fine and interesting thread, and you trolled it up like you always do.

[tux]

I want you to explain which of my statements can be misunderstood as “trolling” and why.

[dinkit]

I want you to explain which of my statements can be misunderstood as “trolling” and why.

qed

[tux]

qed, indeed. Thanks for your insightful remarks, now everyone can see who of us is contributing valuable input and who of us is just calling names. Thank you.

“Boo-hoo! tux. is a troll!”
“What did I do?”
“TROLLING!”
“Where?”
“QED!!111”

Made my day.

[amil]

[quote=“tux.”]qed, indeed. Thanks for your insightful remarks, now everyone can see who of us is contributing valuable input and who of us is just calling names. Thank you.

“Boo-hoo! tux. is a troll!”
“What did I do?”
“TROLLING!”
“Where?”
“QED!!111”

Made my day.[/quote]

I’m the original poster, and by “great community” I didn’t mean people like tux. Could a moderator please stop this?

[tux]

Could the “original poster” clarify what he’s trying to blame me for?

Assume the next moderator here will see this thread. What do you think he will see? If I was that moderator, I’d see a bunch of Atom fantrolls trying to bash an Emacs user for stating that Atom’s browser engine is basically a browser engine.

Great community you have there.

-edit- Oh, btw @dinkit, insulting people per PM does not validate your point of view.

[tux]

I never said Atom is a browser. I said it is built upon a browser (which is undeniably true as its preview rendering is displayed inside a browser window). Please read the source code before accusing me.

[tux]

I educated myself. I’ve even used Electron. I know what it is capable of. What about you?

No, Electron is not a browser. Yes, Electron contains a browser which is responsible for the majority of Atom functions. A browser is the most infected software on desktop computers. By the way, as you forgot to read my posting again before answering, I don’t actively use Sublime Text or its potentially harmful packages anymore.

I guess the joke is on you, my friend. But I know, that will NEVER happen to YOU!
Good luck.

[JacobWille]

I guess the joke is on you, my friend. But I know, that will NEVER happen to YOU!

tux,

I believe the concensus in this thread is that the joke is on you. I understand your urge to have the last post, and that you think you understand something everybody else in the thread doesn’t.

Too bad the actual content of this thread got lost in your puke.

Signing off. Have a good one…

[tux]

I believe the concensus in this thread is that the joke is on you.

If ten people who are wrong agree that they are right, does that make them right?

Good night.

[tux]

If any of those ten people could finally begin to point out where I’m wrong instead of just shouting “troll!”, threatening me via PM and insisting that I’m wrong, this thread could have been finished a few pages earlier. Interestingly, none of them does. I guess I know why.

“You are a troll!” is not a valuable addition to a constructive discussion unless it is followed by “because” plus an actual evidence for trolling (which is defined as intended destructive behavior, and I promise you I don’t intend to behave destructively here).
“You are wrong!” is not a valuable addition to a constructive discussion unless it is followed by “because” plus an actual reason where/why I’m wrong, preferably including a proof for the false statement that Atom’s core is not a browser.

By the way, I don’t understand why people are personally pissed when someone dislikes Atom’s concept. I smell some bias here. Why can’t you accept that other people don’t like it? And why do you think it’s appropriate behavior to come to Sublime Text’s forum and attack people who don’t switch to Atom?

[tux]

Thanks.