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"License Upgrade Required" message makes me want to puke

#21

I am willing to pay far more than $99 for 3 years.

I’d happily pay $99 a year for each of Sublime Text + Sublime Merge.

But I hate supporting the archaic closed source “license” bllsht.

Licenses should NEVER be applied to ideas. Ever!

We should not be doing it anymore.

If you don’t understand why, go take some long walks and think about it.

Maybe read Stephan Kinsella, an IP-Lawyer turned Anti-IP (https://www.stephankinsella.com/) or read some stuff from yours truly (https://breckyunits.com/freedom.html)

It doesn’t have to be this way.

We can create a super win-win-win-win.

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#22

I would say that you invent your own product and license it to users in whatever way you like. The one who has to worry about how to make money with ST is Jon, not you. You are not the first one to provide an “insightful” open-source it to make money opinion.

Plus, this thread becomes not meaningful. Isn’t the issue be “License Upgrade Required” message makes me want to puke”? Now it’s related to open source?

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#23

You’re projecting what you would do onto anybody else.

Why someone would preferer an OLD version of ST (with less features and maybe more bugs) over the latest VSCode? The youngsters you’re working with use VSCode because:

  • It’s free
  • It’s packed with useful features and plugins, a lot more that ST
  • Everybody else in their team already use it
  • They don’t care about what makes ST better than VSCode
  • Don’t forget it’s also free
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#24

Long time ST user, I really didn’t aware the license will expire even there’s no major version update. Saw the Licnese Upgrade Required message today, and just felt so bad…

Actually, ST is not my daily editor longer, I have moved all my new projects into vsCode, even ruby projects, ST’s just for some old projects which have ST project file configured. I moved to vscode simply because of the ecosystem, I think the ST ecosystem is dying.

But I still kept ST, and upgraded to ST4, and I even asked myself if there’ll be ST5, am I still want to purchase the upgrade or not. But now I think I have the answer now

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#25

Best thing I’ve read all year: https://blog.vrypan.net/2011/05/30/intellectual-parenthood/

You wouldn’t require people to have a “License” to hang with your kids, why require a “License” to hang with your software?

It’s stomach turning.

The crazy part is, if done right, you could make 10x+ more money going Early Source.

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#26

A fun thread. “Copyright is evil.” :slight_smile: Talk about a sentiment that evokes the gag reflex.

The amount of money I make as a writer is meager enough. Imagine how well off I’d be if I gave it away for free.

“No one but a blockhead ever wrote except for money.” - Samuel Johnson.

The internet runneth over with blockheads.

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#27

Long time ST user here, having rebought the license for both ST and SM a few times over the past 10+ years. This time of the three-year period again, not sure how I ended up here. Anyway, wanted to express some love for the bundle.

Keep up the good work :heart:

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#28

I disagree with the whole “release old source code; be ‘early-source’ instead of closed-source” thing, I think requiring a license upgrade every 3 years makes a lot of sense. Sublime Text & Merge are excellent, I use Text often (Merge not all that much because of #1822 and #1825), they should stay sustainable and I reckon the current licensing model allows that.

That said, as a licensed user, a persistent “license upgrade required” message at the corner of my window or in the title bar would be kinda off-putting… thoughts on making this an ocassional message on launch instead (like the “thanks for trying out Sublime Text” message that shows on launch, during evaluation)?

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#29

Some people seems to be upset about license upgrading, you can help them by making the warning “License upgrade required” more prominent. You could put them near “Update Available” or somewhere on the right, or just use a different color/style/weight.

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#30

I agree, the “License update required” message should be more prominent. Right now it is easy to miss among other notifications. For example: Instead of plain text, use a warning icon (like a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark) next to “License update required”. This will immediately catch the user’s attention.

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#31

You are aware that Microsoft is harvesting so much data that people should be paid to use VS code…

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